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发表于 2005-11-27 17:26:26 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
想问一下,据我所知,买滑雪板主要参考你的体重,滑雪板长度到你的下颚和鼻子之间。网上有些参考chart。但是我不明白的是junior 和adult的板子有什么区别?有些junior长150cm,而且承重145lb, 对我来说,应该足够了。不知,它跟adult的板子还有哪些区别??还想问一下,women的和men的板子有什么区别?谢!
发表于 2005-11-27 19:55:24 | 显示全部楼层

Re: 买滑雪板一问

champion
想问一下,据我所知,买滑雪板主要参考你的体重,滑雪板长度到你的下颚和鼻子之间。网上有些参考chart。但是我不明白的是junior 和adult的板子有什么区别?有些junior长150cm,而且承重145lb, 对我来说,应该足够了。不知,它跟adult的板子还有哪些区别??还想问一下,women的和men的板子有什么区别?谢!


小冠军,你问得是Ski吧?
发表于 2005-11-27 19:58:37 | 显示全部楼层
高山滑雪器材主要由滑雪板,固定器,滑雪靴,滑雪杖组成。滑雪板由多层结构组成, 主要包括弹性板材,抗扭力的盒形结构,板芯,玻璃纤维复合材料,高分子材料底板,金属 边刃等。

  在选择滑雪板的长度时,最长应以不超过本人手臂上举时手腕部高度为限,最短不应短于胯部。选择长的滑雪板,使用起来速度快,稳定性好,短的滑雪板速度慢,易颤动,稳定性低。

  对于初学者来说,太长的滑雪板不容易控制,转弯较困难,不利于提高自己的技术水平。 根据本人经验,初学者最好以自己的身高再减15厘米左右即可。由于滑雪板的规格是以5 厘米为进制,所以在选择时应视实际情况而定。滑雪板的弹性有大有小,初学者应选用弹性较大的滑雪板,因为这种滑雪板遇到不平的雪面时不易颠簸,制动效果也较好,操作起来比较容易,使初学者很快就能掌握基本的滑雪方法。
发表于 2005-11-27 20:00:55 | 显示全部楼层
技术好的滑雪者可以选择长一点,弹性小一点,稍微重一些的滑雪板,它可以增加滑行中的稳定性,使滑雪板的金属边刃紧紧地卡在雪面上,有利于滑雪者充分地操纵滑雪板,滑出漂亮的弧形。滑雪板底板的材料主要由塑料或高分子尼龙材料制成,高分子材料的底板摩擦系数小,比塑料底板要好。滑雪板的边刃要随时保持锋利,这样在你对它施加重力时,不会产生侧滑。据说专业滑雪运动员使用的滑雪板其边刃可以刮胡子。 :lol:
发表于 2005-11-27 20:03:42 | 显示全部楼层
小冠军,这里有位台湾的朋友写过,你参考一下:

我也來回答一下問題好了,希望不會誤人子弟較好...  

關於第一點選SKI的長度,對初學者來說,長度齊肩是最好操作的,也最容易體會轉彎的方式,而正常的長度,一般是齊耳,但也有有人使用比自己高的SKI,所以這個沒有一定的標準,但還是有差別的,因為越是長的SKI,在轉彎上的調協性(TIMING)越是重要,整個重心轉換也要更加流暢,不然在走路或滑行時,SKI是很容易打架的,而我個人覺得,最方便使用SKI的長度約在齊下巴左右,除了滑行好控制外,就是連在平地當溜冰滑走也很方便...  

另外就是SKI的硬度,一邊初學者使用的SKI硬度都比較軟,這個問題是見人見識的想法,沒有硬性規定,如果要問我的想法的話,我是覺得中間硬度的雪板是最好練功的雪板,還可較全方式使用,而很硬的CARVE SKI就真的需要點功力了,因為這種硬度以上的雪板較難控制一點,同時反震力也較大,沒有一定水準的平衡感,就會很容易出現後坐的姿勢喔,所以這個問題是見人見識的說法,正規的都是先從較軟的板子使用起,至少在速度上較不會一下子就提升起來,因而感到害怕及姿勢全錯...

最好的學習方式,就是去上雪場的課,價格只差幾百塊台幣而已,又安全又能學得多喔!  

關於第二點,我提供一個最安全的坐法姿勢,當坐單人T-BAR時,就雙腿夾好,然後半蹲(膝彎約夾角100~120度左右最好),腳成內八,遇到坑洞時別慌,蹲好放輕鬆,如右腳要碰到坑洞,就微微將右腳抬起來,輕抬不離雪面就可以了,如果太深的話,就再蹲更低一點,八字再開一點就好了,坐T-BAR一定要專心,頭不要左看又看,因為本身平衡感不是很好,頭隨便左右看,重心很容易跑來跑去...  

如果坐雙人T-BAR,一樣要半蹲別太放輕鬆,因為放太輕鬆SKI會亂飄,腳也有呈內八,但角度可縮小一些,然後站好就會被推上去了,但如果有坑洞的話,比照上段辦法...

忘了提T-BAR離開的方法,依然蹲好,然後見機轉彎,想要右轉,右腳就輕抬起一點點,就右轉了,想要左轉,左腳就輕抬一點點,就左轉了,先在家裏練習背一下這個動作,免的上場時一慌就忘了做動作了...

最後,你之所以無法轉彎是因為你加壓的方式不對,以最簡單的試驗方式,就是當你要右轉時,你的右腳就輕輕抬起來一點點就好了,就是感覺右腳沒踩在雪上(是虛浮著),這時重心就會壓在你的左腳了,同時轉動你的腳踝,慢慢轉喔,可先在平地先練習一下,就是用左單腳站好,然後慢慢向右轉,有一點點扭要的動作,這時軸心一定要以左腳為主,一邊轉一邊蹲低,以自己感覺如何轉如何蹲為最穩的感覺,那就差不多了,然後再上雪場試一下,但這只是一個小方式而已還有很多要點跟問題,還是建議在雪場上課會是最好的...  

最後一個偏方,不建議學...想要左轉,就屁股往右邊扭,想要右轉,屁股就往左邊扭...  :-P 保證很快就會轉彎了,但姿勢不好看...還是以腳踝軸轉為最穩定,還是老一句,去上課吧...包一下子就可遊山玩水了...  

其他的部份,可參考一下網內的教學...

http://www.ski.com.tw/modules/tu ... b9141864185c94b6dac

祝有一段美好的學習經驗...
 楼主| 发表于 2005-11-27 23:38:23 | 显示全部楼层
谢了,不过我问的是snowboard. 现在好像比较流行snowboarding :)
发表于 2005-11-30 17:08:01 | 显示全部楼层

Re: 买滑雪板一问

champion
想问一下,据我所知,买滑雪板主要参考你的体重,滑雪板长度到你的下颚和鼻子之间。网上有些参考chart。但是我不明白的是junior 和adult的板子有什么区别?有些junior长150cm,而且承重145lb, 对我来说,应该足够了。不知,它跟adult的板子还有哪些区别??还想问一下,women的和men的板子有什么区别?谢!


J&A 如果长度接近的话, 区别主要在板的RESPONSIVENESS.

M&W 区别主要在重量.

如果你只是随便滑滑, 这些区别对你没有什么影响. 如果你滑的比较多的话, 按照器材的规格来买就是了.
发表于 2005-12-16 09:15:00 | 显示全部楼层
Have heard a lot of versions on how to buy a snowboard. Feel this one is good:

http://www.wiredsport.com/Catalog/02snowfacts.htm

SNOWBOARD 101

As in many industries, there is an abundance of misinformation in the
snowboard world.   The following tips come from years of experience in the
industry, and are designed to cut through some of the tech talk and misleading
jargon.  If you would like us to find you the perfect board for your needs,
please e-mail the following information: Weight, Shoe size, Preferred style of
riding, Ability level, Areas at which you most typically ride.  Click the
highlighted link to view all of our current snowboard deals.  Click the
highlighted link to view all of our current snowboard packages .

Where your nose is, does not determine what size of snowboard you should ride!
  Or your chin, ears, shoulders or any other body part for that matter.  These
are the silliest rules for sizing boards that could possibly be imagined, and
yet they persist.  We hear new ones everyday, "my friend told me that a board
should come to in between my chin and my nose."  Why, are you planning to
nibble on it?   These generalities are good ways to end up with a completely   
inappropriate board.   Why do such rules exist, you ask?  It is due to the      
fact that finding the right board takes a bit of research and knowledge.  The
easy way, however incorrect, is much quicker.  A snowboard reacts to only two
factors, how much pressure is being applied to it (weight), and where that
pressure is coming from (shoe size).  Boards are designed around riders of a
certain weight.  The total weight range for a given board will be around 50
pounds (although manufacturers tend to exaggerate this range to make their
products sellable to a wider variety of customers).  Two men who stand six
feet tall and have there noses at identical heights, may be separated by 100
pounds of weight.  This would change the boards they should ride by two entire
categories of stiffness, and length. You will also want to make sure that the
board is appropriate for your shoe size.  One half to three quarters of an
inch of overhang (yes, overhang) off the edge of your board is ideal (when
wearing snowboard boots, and measured at the stance angle that you will ride).
We will discuss this more below when we address width in detail.

There is no best level of stiffness for a board!  At least five times a day we
hear,"the guy at mountain told me that I want a soft board."  This is the part
that we were discussing above that relates to weight.  Snowboards react to
pressure that is applied to that hourglass shape (sidecut) that they have.
This shape, when flexed, creates an arc on the snow.  You are planning on
turning on that arc.  If you can't flex the sidecut into the snow (because the  
board is too stiff for you) you simply can't turn well, or not at all.  If the  
board is too soft for your weight, it will constantly be overflexing, and
"twisting off" of the edge that you are relying on to carve.  In this scenario
you will have a terrible time on hardpack and ice, because the "effective
edge" (amount of edge that should be in contact with the snow) will be twisted
out of shape, and not doing it's job.  Softer flexing boards tend to be better
for lighter riders, while stiffer boards are needed for the big boys.  Only
for extreme freestyle, or extreme race applications, should this rule be
broken (and in those instances, a second board will be needed for all mountain
riding).

Buying by length is the hardest way to end up with the right board!   "My last
board was a 156, and I liked it, so tell me about the 156's that you carry."
The trick here, is that two boards of identical length, may be designed for
completely different riders and types of riding.  For example a 156 may be a
"big mountain board" for a small woman, or a "park" board for a big guy,
depending on the manufacturer's design plan.  Those two boards, however, would
never be appropriate for the same rider.  Length is often discussed in terms
of: longer equals faster, and more stable, while shorter equals more
maneuverable.  This can also be deceptive.  The "running surface" of a board
(the base area that contacts the snow) is a useful measurement, because this
is the amount of board that you actually are riding upon.  The overall length   
(the measurement usually considered) can be misleading, as it also contains
the raised tip and tail, which do not contact the snow, and have only nuance
differences in affecting your ride.  Your best bet is research.  Look into who
the board was made for, and for what type of riding.   Leave the rules of
thumb to the rental guys, who are trying to get through the line of renters as
quickly as possible, and get on the slopes (can't blame 'em for that).

Wide boards are not usually the answer!  "You have size 11 feet so you need a
wide board."  True, if you want to ride the slowest, least maneuverable board
you could buy.  Remember, wide rides can fix your "toe drag" problem in an
instance.  But, you will end up with three worse problems to take it's place.
Namely, Lack of speed, sluggish heel/toe response, and more "lateral flex"
(the tendency that all boards have to twist off of an edge).  Toe drag is only
one problem, and it is livable, with many good workarounds such as:
appropriate forward binding angles, well designed boots and bindings, and good
binding adjustment.   It is important to note that your toes and heels (with
boots on) must hang over the edge of your board at least one half inch.  This
is necessary for leverage over the edge, to make the board carve correctly.
Many believe that the only benefit to wide boards, is for pure park and
freestyle riding, at close to zero degree stance angles, with huge feet. One
final note: there is a very good reason why wide board sales are in decline,
and used wide boards are the most common trade ins on the market today.

Definition of board types:  Freestyle, park, and halfpipe: These boards are
generally the shortest boards that a given rider will select from his/her
range.  The stubby shapes and shallow sidecuts are optimized for trick riding
on "flatland" or manmade "terrain parks", halfpipes and natural formations.
These generally softer boards are designed to get instantly on edge, but lack
a lot of carving potential when they get there.  These are one trick ponies,
and are not usually the only board for the riders who buy them.  Freeride, all
mountain, and freestyle/freeride boards:  This is the catch all category in
snowboarding.  It refers to boards that do everything pretty well.  They can
be taken into the halfpipe, or ridden at mach one speeds.  They are not
designed to win halfpipe events, or compete with race boards on the course.
Slalom/Race boards: These specialty boards are easily identified by only
having one raised tip (the nose) and a flat tail.  They do one thing
exceptionally well.  They go fast in hardpack conditions.  They are not
optimal for other types of riding.  Big Mountain: A term sometimes used for
the biggest possible freeride board that a given user would choose.  This is
the one you take heli-boarding to Valdez.

Sidecut:  As noted above when discussing freestyle boards, sidecut greatly
determines the type of turn that a board "wants" to do.   The deeper the
sidecut, the more aggressively the board wants to turn.  Some boards have
symmetrical sidecuts while others have progressive sidecuts.  This effects the
feel of the board through a turn.  Progressive sidecut boards tend to flare
out at the tail and are designed to "kick" the rider out of a turn, while
symmetrical boards are smoother when riding "fakie" or "switch" (backwards).

Directional or twin:  All boards today, outside of race boards and the
occasional concept board, are really twins.  This means that both tip and tail
are raised from the snow, and that the board can be ridden switch.  The
distinction then, should really be between "pure twins" and "directional
twins".  A pure twin is a board that is shaped identically on each side of
it's center point, and has the same flex pattern in it's nose and tail.  A
directional twin will either have a longer nose than tail, or a softer nose
than tail (and many times both).  This is a game of nuance and will make less
difference to the ride than other features.  Here is a summary of the effects
of these properties: Longer noses tend to ride up better over powder, but
spin slower due to added rotational weight.   Softer noses will also help in
powder, but are a little unstable when riding switch.

Don't spend too much time debating tip and tail construction:   Many first
time buyers become focused on the differences between manufacturer's
approaches towards tip and tail construction.  Some brands argue that wood in
the ends is the way to go for a consistent flex pattern.  Others state that
you need fiberglass for low swing weight.  Some argue that extra metal edge
should be laid in, to protect from damage, while others feel this added weight
is unacceptable.  Truth is, it really doesn't matter much at all.  First off,
most boards are damaged in the pickup on the way up the hill or by trying to
jam the tail into snow that turns out not to be snow on the way in to grab a
burger, or by the baggage handlers at La Guardia.   No type of end structure
will prevent against this.  Metal edges all around, when struck hard, often
wedge themselves into the board, creating more damage than had they not been
there.  On the other hand, the weight of the small amount of metal added, can
barely be felt by even the most seasoned rider.  Similarly, wood in the tip,
adds almost no weight, but doesn't really enhance the ride either.  Let's face
it, you don't spend that much time doing "manuals" (tail wheelies) and when
you do , the difference is negligible.  The downside of having wood to the end
is that if the board does sustain edge damage to the core, the wood will
absorb moisture and is much trickier to fix.  The bottom line is, be careful
with whatever board you choose, and don't let this be the deciding factor.

All boards are not created equal:  There are many different constructions of
snowboards. You want to be sure to buy one of the better construction methods.
Wood is good.  Vertically laminated, wood core, cap construction snowboards
are the state of the art in the industry today.  The wood lasts, and the cap
(the structural wrapper that covers the wood from edge to edge) helps to
torsionally stiffen the product, keeping the edges firmly planted in snow or
ice.   Sidewall or sandwich boards are good as well, although usually
considered a small step down from their capped brothers.  This is older ski
technology.  The boards, instead of having a top and bottom like the capped
boards, have a top, bottom and two laid in "sidewalls".  This adds weight and
can leave an opportunity for lateral flex to creep into the picture.  Foam
core boards used to all be considered inferior (and for a long time they
were).  The foam inside did little to reduce twist, and didn't give the same
confident ride as good old wood.  Some hybrid boards with composites of
foams, metals, and thermoplastics, have made headway in the marketplace, but
have not received the widespread rider support of wood yet.   Reaction
injection molded boards (RIM), and all foam boards, make up the lowest end of
the marketplace.  Be careful of the former, as they are sometimes the ones
that most aggressively state "WOOD CORE", knowing well that the wood is just a
wafer floating in foam or resin, only there for bragging rights in
advertisement, and not capable of any potential gain except weight gain.

Manufacturers:  It is very likely that the company whose name is on the board,
did not manufacture the board.  Snowboarding is an OEM (Original Equipment
some or all of their boards for them.  In many instances one board company
will have boards produced for them by many factories.  You would be surprised
at how many different brands have their boards pressed in the same factories.
That being said, it becomes much more crucial to determine what construction
method was used (see number 8) than what brand label is on the topsheet.  One
major manufacturer used to grade label it's boards from "banana split" to
"single scoop."  Let's just say, your better off riding a premium, wood core,
cap construction board, out of a great factory, from any brand, than anyone
else's single scoop.  Sorry Jake.
 楼主| 发表于 2005-12-17 11:26:19 | 显示全部楼层
Too late.........I've got one already. But thanks anyway :)
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