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请教关于徒步鞋所用防水剂的问题

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发表于 2011-2-28 22:14:35 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
鞋子是这个型号:
http://www.vasque.com/vasque-sho ... atch-gtx-moss-brown
不知道这是不是就是叫做“nubuck”?
那么用作保养的防水剂是不是就该选:
http://www.mec.ca/Products/produ ... id=2534374302733875
不是很清楚,有行家可否告知一二?最近发现才买了5个月的鞋子好像每次走雪鞋回来都有点湿,怀疑是由鞋面渗水,是否喷点如上的water repellent就可以缓解这种状况?
谢谢。
发表于 2011-2-28 22:30:09 | 显示全部楼层
发表于 2011-2-28 22:34:29 | 显示全部楼层

Re: 请教关于徒步鞋所用防水剂的问题

无非
鞋子是这个型号:
http://www.vasque.com/vasque-sho ... atch-gtx-moss-brown
不知道这是不是就是叫做“nubuck”?
那么用作保养的防水剂是不是就该选:
http://www.mec.ca/Products/produ ... id=2534374302733875
不是很清楚,有行家可否告知一二?最近发现才买了5个月的鞋子好像每次走雪鞋回来都有点湿,怀疑是由鞋面渗水,是否喷点如上的water repellent就可以缓解这种状况?
谢谢。


这鞋漏水啊!我才上的呀!你的不能退啦?
发表于 2011-2-28 22:40:07 | 显示全部楼层
你要不要和厂家联系一下,就算商家不给退,也许厂家管呢?毕竟才5个月嘛!发个邮件啥的。。。
发表于 2011-2-28 22:44:55 | 显示全部楼层
Fromsouth
你要不要和厂家联系一下,就算商家不给退,也许厂家管呢?毕竟才5个月嘛!发个邮件啥的。。。


Good suggestion! The vendor might be able to inform you what's the best way to clean and waterproof the boots properly.
 楼主| 发表于 2011-2-28 23:54:02 | 显示全部楼层
WanchaiBoz
[quote]Fromsouth
你要不要和厂家联系一下,就算商家不给退,也许厂家管呢?毕竟才5个月嘛!发个邮件啥的。。。


Good suggestion! The vendor might be able to inform you what's the best way to clean and waterproof the boots properly.[/quote]
Thanks both of you,I"ll try to contact them.
发表于 2011-3-1 00:44:03 | 显示全部楼层
我买过两双Vasgue的防水登山靴,没什么问题,都挺满意的。第一双穿了4年左右才有点渗水,主要是鞋面与鞋底粘合处有点开胶了,开始渗水了,就又买了一双防水的登山靴。第一双Vasque还是在国内买的,而且那4年是走得最狠的4年。
发表于 2011-3-1 01:03:14 | 显示全部楼层
Most people tend to think that Nubuck aka leather reverse-side out holds up as well as Full grain leather and keeps it appearance if treated properly, but unfortunately it doesn't. The Goretex helps but I learned something interesting with my Goretex boots.
We call it a catch 22 scenario. The leather needs to be treated  but that defeats the purpose of the goretex breathability. I stopped treating my boots and surprizingly my feet stopped getting wet. So is it really a case of the boots leaking or are the feet sweating and not breathing through the goretex properly after apply waterproof layer? If your feet are really soaking wet, then perhaps it is a leak. I try to avoid boots with alot of stitching but that is hard to do with these new composite boots.
Now all I do is make sure my boots are kept clean so that the Goretex can do the job. I'm not 100% convinced that Goretex in boots works as boots go through much more stress and movement than jackets and pants do which could break down the goretex membrane faster.

check your boots for any ruptures or brakes between the sole, rubber rand, and last. Flex the boots with your hands and see if any cracks or splits appear in these areas. I've tried using seam sealer along the rands edge as a last solution and it helped on an emergency basis.  This is just my thoughts from personal experience and nothing more.
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发表于 2011-3-1 01:22:00 | 显示全部楼层
postscript:
I don't expect too much performance from any boot in the snow especially when temperatures are at 0deg or above and the snow is wet. In this case i found the only solution was a coat of snoseal which can only be applied to leather boots. I use canvas coat on my Sorel boots.
In low temperatures the boots tend to perform better.
发表于 2011-3-1 06:45:45 | 显示全部楼层

Re: 请教关于徒步鞋所用防水剂的问题

无非
鞋子是这个型号:
http://www.vasque.com/vasque-sho ... atch-gtx-moss-brown
不知道这是不是就是叫做“nubuck”?
那么用作保养的防水剂是不是就该选:
http://www.mec.ca/Products/produ ... id=2534374302733875
不是很清楚,有行家可否告知一二?最近发现才买了5个月的鞋子好像每次走雪鞋回来都有点湿,怀疑是由鞋面渗水,是否喷点如上的water repellent就可以缓解这种状况?
谢谢。



看这里,户外装备的置顶贴里有Outdoor Gear Care & Repair Guide
http://www.mcnett.com/

Which Water Repellent is Best for You?

Choose the Right Formula

• Lightweight hiking boots are generally made with nubuck, suede, nylon or Gore-Tex® fabric. Weatherproofing: Use ReviveX® Nubuck, Suede & Fabric Spray Water Repellent



• Mid-weight hiking & backpacking boots are generally made with full-grain leather for added support and durability. Many feature Gore-Tex® fabric for added comfort. Weatherproofing: Use ReviveX Leather Spray Water Repellent


• Mountaineering boots are built with the roughest terrain and wettest conditions in mind. These boots may use full-grain leather and often include Gore-Tex® fabric for maximum dryness. Weatherproofing: Use ReviveX Leather Gel Water Repellent

Restore or Create Water Repellency for Footwear


Step 1:

Remove laces. Eliminate dirt and trail hardened grime with ReviveX® Boot Cleaner and air dry.


Step 2:

Apply ReviveX® Nubuck, Suede and Fabric Water Repellent to clean, dry footwear. Liberally treat the tops and sides of the toe area, especially where the boot bends.


For Heavy-Duty or Rough-Out Leather Boots


To prepare footwear for the wettest, most abrasive situations such as step kicking in snow, ice climbing or mixed climbing, use a heavy duty gel waterproofing formula such as ReviveX® Leather Gel. Apply gel to a clean cloth, then buff into the leather.



NOTE:

Gel water repellent treatments will darken leather, giving footwear a rich, traditional outdoor look. Many climbers like this darker look. Make sure you like it before you apply ReviveX Leather Gel.

发表于 2011-3-1 09:34:00 | 显示全部楼层
看来真是什么都有讲究啊!高科技也有局限性!
 楼主| 发表于 2011-3-1 13:14:52 | 显示全部楼层
谢谢楼上诸位,我得去MEC看看了,是否有合适的拨水剂。
谢谢谢谢。
发表于 2011-3-2 09:08:28 | 显示全部楼层
Fromsouth
你要不要和厂家联系一下,就算商家不给退,也许厂家管呢?毕竟才5个月嘛!发个邮件啥的。。。


Vasque products are covered by a limited 1-year warranty against defects in materials and workmanship. Vasque reserves the sole right to make all coverage determinations. Products found to be defective will be repaired or replaced at Vasque's discretion.

If you can't get back to the dealer where your boots were purchased and see what they'll do, you'll need to send them back direct to Red Wing at this address:

Red Wing Shoe Company

135 Cannon River Avenue

Red Wing, MN 55066

Attention: Vasque Returns

Put a note or card in with your boots explaining the problem, along with your name, return address, and telephone #.
 楼主| 发表于 2011-3-2 10:26:07 | 显示全部楼层
Fromsouth
[quote]Fromsouth
你要不要和厂家联系一下,就算商家不给退,也许厂家管呢?毕竟才5个月嘛!发个邮件啥的。。。


Vasque products are covered by a limited 1-year warranty against defects in materials and workmanship. Vasque reserves the sole right to make all coverage determinations. Products found to be defective will be repaired or replaced at Vasque's discretion.

If you can't get back to the dealer where your boots were purchased and see what they'll do, you'll need to send them back direct to Red Wing at this address:

Red Wing Shoe Company

135 Cannon River Avenue

Red Wing, MN 55066

Attention: Vasque Returns

Put a note or card in with your boots explaining the problem, along with your name, return address, and telephone #.[/quote]
Ok,谢谢了。
发表于 2011-3-2 11:32:06 | 显示全部楼层
I would go to the store first, to see if what they can do, if they would not help, then mail the boot back if you like.

I remember Zamberlan is life-time warranty... So you can always check with the company to see if they can help in that case…
发表于 2011-3-2 12:34:45 | 显示全部楼层
After reading the last post I recalled there is a Red Wing Shoe store in burnaby across from Metro Town. and yes it is still there. Maybe they can help you

Red Wing Shoe Store
4707 Kingsway
Burnaby BC
V5H 2C3

http://www.redwingshoes.ca/burnaby

maybe they can help you also
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