七月长周末三天雪鞋backpacking---Panorama Ridge+Empetrum Peak+Mt.Price

gentle · 发表于 2011-6-28 11:26:38

Irene
Two people one car, may come back the next day. Thanks.

hi, Irene
can you give me a ride on day 2 coming back to vancouver

Angelbella · 发表于 2011-6-28 19:40:11

Lu,

I have never camped in the snow before, beside excitement, I have some questions.

1. do i need to bring poles to support the tarp (on my tent) assuming the camp ground is on an open snow field. I don't have poles supporting the tarp at this time, assuming the hiking pole is not tall enough to support the tarp. Do we need to set up tarp in this weather, what about blocking the wind?

2. how many meals to prepare for myself, and for the group?

3. what other water source we have beside boiling up snow/ice?

4. :sm5f: I am so afraid of Bear visitors!! where to dispose dirt water from washing, cooking, garbage? where to store food if there is no trees and food locker around the camp site?

Camp Safe

lulululu · 发表于 2011-6-28 20:00:53

Angelbella
Lu,

I have never camped in the snow before, beside excitement, I have some questions.

1. do i need to bring poles to support the tarp (on my tent) assuming the camp ground is on an open snow field. I don't have poles supporting the tarp at this time, assuming the hiking pole is not tall enough to support the tarp. Do we need to set up tarp in this weather, what about blocking the wind?

2. how many meals to prepare for myself, and for the group?

3. what other water source we have beside boiling up snow/ice?

4. :sm5f: I am so afraid of Bear visitors!! where to dispose dirt water from washing, cooking, garbage? where to store food if there is no trees and food locker around the camp site?

tree well far from creek/lake

Camp Safe

无非
刚才和Lulu请教了一下，估计得带上：
1，在雪地上的坐垫(剪一块泡沫垫，或者在MEC买)
http://www.mec.ca/Products/produ ... id=2534374302701645
2，除睡袋和睡垫外，最好再倒带一层泡沫垫<$20，可以垫在充气睡垫以下，做2次防护(没有这次也应该能凑合，如果冷的话就穿上down jacket戴上帽子睡 )。应急毯(all weather emergency blanket)是一个很好的选择。
http://www.mec.ca/Products/produ ... id=2534374302888390
3，广口水瓶。估计得在冰冻湖面挖洞取水取水，广口瓶要方便许多，我还会带一个10L的水桶做公用。
4，Tarp和铲子由我和Lulu各带一件做公用, 我们扎好营后会挖出厨房和桌凳，舒舒服服吃饭/聊天,也会事先搭好为厨房饭厅搭好两个Tarp，以防雨雪.

6.雪钉（snow camping专用），八根左右,如果没时间买的话，也可以带几段细绳，末端系上一般的帐钉，拉紧拉开，横埋在雪里
http://www.mec.ca/Products/produ ... id=2534374302703001

lulululu
....
3> 2 breakfast, 2 dinner, 3 lunch & snacks and some food to share. e.g. snack or a small dish to share for Friday night....

we are a big group so I do not think that we will have bear problem and we will hang our food sack.....

lulululu · 发表于 2011-6-28 20:12:27

Angelbella
Lu,

I have never camped in the snow before, beside excitement, I have some questions.

1. do i need to bring poles to support the tarp (on my tent) assuming the camp ground is on an open snow field. I don't have poles supporting the tarp at this time, assuming the hiking pole is not tall enough to support the tarp. Do we need to set up tarp in this weather, what about blocking the wind?

2. how many meals to prepare for myself, and for the group?

3. what other water source we have beside boiling up snow/ice?

4. :sm5f: I am so afraid of Bear visitors!! where to dispose dirt water from washing, cooking, garbage? where to store food if there is no trees and food locker around the camp site?

Camp Safe

you can call me for the details, I am not good at typing :wink:

windy · 发表于 2011-6-28 20:40:05

lulu领导，我看到省立公园网站上说只能在指定营地露营：
我们的露营地点确定了吗？

Know Before You Go
Prohibited ActivitiesUse of motorized vehicles including snowmobiles, motorcycles, ATVs, trail bikes and similar conveyances are restricted to park roads and parking lots.
Domestic animals (dogs/pets);
Fires;
Arriving or departing from the park by aircraft;
Harvesting of natural resources;
CampingCamping is permitted in designated areas only. Be prepared to camp in outdoor conditions if facilities are full.

All camping areas, cabins, shelters, etc. in Garibaldi Provincial Park are operated on a first-come, first-served basis. There are no reservations accepted.

Irene · 发表于 2011-6-28 20:57:32

gentle
[quote]Irene
Two people one car, may come back the next day. Thanks.

hi, Irene
can you give me a ride on day 2 coming back to vancouver[/quote]

No problem.

lulululu · 发表于 2011-6-28 21:27:15

windy
lulu领导，我看到省立公园网站上说只能在指定营地露营：
我们的露营地点确定了吗？

Know Before You Go
Prohibited ActivitiesUse of motorized vehicles including snowmobiles, motorcycles, ATVs, trail bikes and similar conveyances are restricted to park roads and parking lots.
Domestic animals (dogs/pets);
Fires;
Arriving or departing from the park by aircraft;
Harvesting of natural resources;
CampingCamping is permitted in designated areas only. Be prepared to camp in outdoor conditions if facilities are full.

All camping areas, cabins, shelters, etc. in Garibaldi Provincial Park are operated on a first-come, first-served basis. There are no reservations accepted.

我个人觉得上述这些只是general speaking很可能并不包括雪季的情况---比如湖边的ranger station和shelter明文规定都是不能过夜只能煮食和储物的，但在雪季也是可以住人的(我们以往雪季backpacking时和路上碰到的rangers聊起这点，他们也没有问题hikers在雪季入住...)

今年雪多，现在trail的五+公里以上都是雪，所以还是snow hiking，我个人觉得只要留意细节对环境的影响很小(欢迎讨论)。。。。比如我们以往的雪季backpacking，都是自主地找一块适合的雪地扎营(并不是指定地点)，当然会留意安排好处理如厕/废水等问题.

我今天联系过BC park，没有回音，还会继续联系，欢迎讨论纠正，灵活应变！

windy · 发表于 2011-6-28 21:45:25

lulululu
我觉得上述这些只是general speaking很可能并不包括雪季的情况---比如湖边的ranger station和shelter明文规定都是不能过夜只能煮食和储物的，但在雪季也是可以住人的(我们以往雪季backpacking时和路上碰到的rangers聊起这点，他们也没有问题hikers在雪季入住...)

今年雪多，现在trail的五+公里以上都是雪，所以还是snow hiking，我个人觉得只要留意细节对环境的影响很小(欢迎讨论)。。。。比如我们以往的雪季backpacking，都是自主地找一块适合的雪地扎营(并不是指定地点)，当然会留意安排好处理如厕/废水等问题.

我今天联系过BC park，没有回音，还会继续联系，欢迎讨论，灵活应变！

只要是允许的就好了。我们人比较多，只要别到半夜了再被赶下山就行。 :lol:

lulululu · 发表于 2011-6-29 11:40:39

GARIBALDI PROVINCIAL PARK. TRAIL CONDITIONS as of June 21, 2011.

http://www.env.gov.bc.ca/bcparks ... di/trail_report.pdf

归去来兮 · 发表于 2011-6-29 12:37:15

you may want to stash the gears by the lake before heading to Mt. Price for 3rd day.

Otherwise after bagged Mt. Price you have to double back to your camp.

Another option is using Cheakmus trail as entrance and exit. Then you will be fine.

lulululu · 发表于 2011-6-29 12:55:53

归去来兮
you may want to stash the gears by the lake before heading to Mt. Price for 3rd day.

Otherwise after bagged Mt. Price you have to double back to your camp.

Another option is using Cheakmus trail as entrance and exit. Then you will be fine.

谢谢小归提醒建议 :r: :D

lulululu · 发表于 2011-6-29 19:12:48

和非掌门商量后，决定周五的营地的选址视当天大家的行进情况而定，反正肯定是睡帐蓬（帐蓬必备），而且不去Garibalsi湖边了。直接往Taylar Meadow的方向.....

lulululu · 发表于 2011-6-29 20:54:48

GPS Data:

红线：to Taylor Meadow and a little bit more
绿线: to Panaroma Ridge
紫红线: to Empertrum Peak
孔雀兰线: to Mt. Price

lulululu · 发表于 2011-6-29 21:07:59

请各位队友一定做好功课和准备，把首页里贴出的路线信息和相关描述报告链接都读上两遍，并按要求带上所有要求的装备，雪鞋帐蓬等等list上的装备一定要带齐，谢谢！

请要对讲机的队友也都带上，谢谢!!

Irene · 发表于 2011-6-29 21:38:32

Sorry, can’t go with your guys this time due to another incident. Have a good time!
Irene

lulululu · 发表于 2011-6-30 07:19:36

Irene
Sorry, can’t go with your guys this time due to another incident. Have a good time!
Irene

No problem, you too have a great weekend!

windy · 发表于 2011-6-30 09:49:29

Angelbella

4. :sm5f: I am so afraid of Bear visitors!! where to dispose dirt water from washing, cooking, garbage? where to store food if there is no trees and food locker around the camp site?

Angelbella, 我也害怕熊，或者我们俩可以住一个帐篷？

lulululu · 发表于 2011-6-30 11:40:30

gentle,

could you pls give me or Wu Fei a call? we called you a couple times but got no response. Thanks

lulululu · 发表于 2011-6-30 19:08:30

Pls bring a dry sack for storing your food

lulululu · 发表于 2011-6-30 19:35:31

请大家稍稍多带一些fuel以防需要融雪，带烧气罐炉子的同学，请带上一个炉垫（比如鼠标垫），以防气罐直接接触雪地影响炉子的热效

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七月长周末三天雪鞋backpacking---Panorama Ridge+Empetrum Peak+Mt.Price

GARIBALDI TRAIL CONDITIONS as of June 21,2011