8月23 - 26 South Chilcotin四天backpacking

lulululu

8月23 - 26 South Chilcotin四天backpacking

由於Warner Lake比較小, 沒有足夠空間讓水上飛機載重1100lbs滑翔起飛, 所以行程有改動 - 第一天9:00am由Tyax Resort飛到Warner Lake, 第四天早上8:00am從Lorna Lake飛回Tyax Resort。如Warner Lake風大, 飛機不能降落, 飛入飛出都會在Lorna Lake。到時行程會再修改。

第一天按原计划飞到Warner Lake扎营, explore Warner Lake area
第二天从Warner Lake向Lorna Lake进发

第3天explore trails around Lorna Lake area (day hikes)

第四天早上从Lorna Lake飞出

小C
請自給自足, 帶備足夠食物, 煮食燃料。 每個人的包都會很重, 不用多帶額外物資, 跟其他隊友分享。

食物數量如下:
早餐 -
第一天早餐住宿旅店免費供應, 另加2天。
第四天早餐建議在Tyax Lodge 吃。

Restaurant hours:
Breakfast is served from 7:30am – to10:30am with a kitchen closure from 10:30am - 12:00pm. Lunch is served from 12:00pm on and the kitchen closes at 9:30pm.

午餐 -
第一天至第三天, 共3餐。第四天在Pemberton或回程途中吃。

晚餐 -
0天可自備take-out或在Lillooet吃
Lillooet餐廳
Lilllooet Grocery Store
第一天至第三天, 共3餐。

個人用品:
高幫防水hiking boots
Gaitor／護膝／二根登山杖(with baskets)
Backpack & raincover
帳篷／睡袋／睡墊
footprint或雨布, 鋪在帳篷下可以有效地防沙防潮
食物（包括早晚的煮食和中午的干糧及湯水茶包）
水袋 + 水瓶- 用來取水, 裝沸水待用
爐／氣／鍋／食器/ 杯子/ 點火器/ 防水火柴
防水食物袋
抹手紙
多個結實的塑料大及小垃圾袋

衣服：
防雨外套及褲子必備，早晚高山氣溫較低, 至少帶1套禦寒保暖衣服, 如羽絨, fleece jacket, 羊毛longjohns,羊毛衣。其他衣物都選輕的,快乾的。
游泳衣(褲) / 毛巾。
幾套替換的hiking襪子和內衣。
防水防滑手套必備
沙灘涼鞋 / 輕便鞋
遮陽防雨帽

梳洗用品:
個人衛生品 / 刷牙用品/ 洗面奶/ 潤膚霜
梳子
防曬霜
廁紙 + 洗手液(Hand Sanitizer)

其他用品:
驅蚊水, 止痕膏, 防蚊紗帽
防熊劑 / 熊鈴
指南針 / 哨子
墨鏡
數個大號 / 中號ziploc bags
紙筆 / 記事部
急救包
淨水劑 - 片裝
Electrolyte
相機 / 頭燈 / 充足備用電池 / memory card

歡迎各隊友補充, 修正。

FYI:

https://www.crossna.org/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=2713

http://www.leelau.net/sharonandlee/tag/lorna-lake/

http://www.clubtread.com/sforum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=32185

lulululu

小C
我8月23 - 26有四天空檔, 感興趣South Chilcotin.
這計劃多年前已討論過, 關注ing。

那就定8月23 - 26吧，我俩一起计划组织吧--更周全些。因为只有四天，我想坐水上飞机进去(出)--Floatplane service is currently available May-Oct. to Spruce Lake and June-Oct to Warner Lake and Lorna Lake

Lorna Lake和Warner Lake的海拔要高一些也更深入些风景可能会更好些，我目前想的是Lorna Lake.

Minimum driving times to Gold Bridge from N.Vancouver
** via Hurley River FSR( 2wd gravel road with rough sections): 4 hours

Status of the Hurley River FSR:
http://www.for.gov.bc.ca/dsq/Engineering/RoadInformation.htm

** via Lillooet using Hwy99 and Road 40: 5.5 hours

水上飞机
http://www.tyaxair.com/Tours_and_Flights/Chartered_Flights/


这次想租个卫星电话

googoo

count me in!

lulululu

SOUTH CHILCOTIN TRAILS

THE SOUTHERN CHILCOTIN MOUNTAINS

Lorna Lake Area


http://trudelsknapsack.com/pages ... ure/chilcotin2.html

http://www.sprucelaketours.com/back_country_tour.html

http://www.gobc.ca/bcparks/cariboo-chilcotin-coast/big-creek

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Creek_(British_Columbia)

EXPLORER

Please reserve me a spot.  Thanks.

Explorer

lulululu

yin G
Lulu, 你打算飞进飞出，还是飞进走出。我们两个很感兴趣，但是现在我无法确定。那边似乎只放12人每天。

飞进飞出 (round trip is ~$300 per person if we get 5 or 10 ppl)

lulululu

useful links:

Lee Lao's trip planning page
http://www.leelau.net/2009/chilcotinsept2009/tripprep.htm

Spruce Lake Wilderness Adventures
http://www.sprucelaketours.ca/

Chilcotin Wilderness Society
http://www.chilcotinwilderness.ca/index.html

Link to search for various trips Lee Lao has done in this area (Taseko – Lorna – Spruce - Tyax – Shulaps areas)
http://www.leelau.net/search.htm ... p;cof=FORID%3A9#949

South Chilcotin Mountains Park
http://www.env.gov.bc.ca/bcparks ... s/trail_summary.pdf

South Chilcotin Mountains Provincial Park
http://www.env.gov.bc.ca/bcparks ... outh_chilcotin_mts/

THE SOUTHERN CHILCOTIN MOUNTAINS (TRAIL VENTURES BC)
http://www.trailventuresbc.com/m ... tin/chilcotin-intro

South Chilcotin links:
http://www.trailventuresbc.com/c ... /12-south-chilcotin

lulululu

Maps:
South Chilcotin Mountains Provincial Park Map:
http://www.env.gov.bc.ca/bcparks ... cm_overview_map.pdf

Spruce Lake – Warner Lake area trail map:
http://www.env.gov.bc.ca/bcparks ... rner_trails_map.pdf

Upper Tyaughton – Relay Creek area trail map:
http://www.env.gov.bc.ca/bcparks ... hton_trails_map.pdf

lulululu

大温地区至少有三个地方租卫星电话---Ralphs's Radio, Deakin Equipment, Canada Wide Communications
好象是Ralphs's Radio最便宜（据Noookta trip碰到的hiker--Mike Ilic说是押金一千，租金$10一天，然后是$1/per minute,有待确认），最贵应该是Deakin Equipment.

Deakin Equipment:

http://www.deakin.com/contact/
a $2000.00 dollar deposit

Daily - $24.28
Weekly - $169.99
Monthly - $350.00
Air Time Usage - $2.95 per min.

Ralphs's Radio(close to science world):
http://www.ralphsradio.com/

Canada Wide Communications in North Vancouver rent Satellite Phone as well.
http://canadawidecommunications.ca/
这家的出租价格还不清楚

lulululu

***第二天的大致总距离：~20km; 总爬高:~1170m, 具体如下：

Lorna Pass Trail 3.8km
Lora Lake to Lorna Pass: elevation gain: ~320m(from ~1930m to ~2250m)

part of Tyaughton Creek Trail(from the junction of Lorna Pass trail to the junction of Deer Pass trail)
distance: ~3-3.5km
elevation loss from Lorna Pass: ~550m(from ~2250m to ~1700m)

Deer pass Trail: 9.7km
Elevation gain: ~600m (from ~1700m to ~2300m, to Deer Pass)
Elevation Loss: ~700m( from ~2300 to ~1600, (from Deer Pass to the junction of Warner Pass Trail/Gun Creek Trail)

To Warner Lake: ~3km
Elevation gain: 250m (from 1600m to 1850m)

***第三天容易，15km没有什么elevation Gain，从Warner Lake(1850m)沿Gun Creek Trail到Spruce Lake(1570m).
如果早早走到Spruce Lake不累的话,可能早早地吃过晚饭后，轻装走一小小部分High Trail到Windy pass再回营地(round trip<10km, elevation gain:600m)

lulululu

some GPS waypoints, I'll post more GPS data later...

Flex

支持支持。。。

googoo

lulululu
The plan:

Day 1: fly in.(Lorna Lake) Camp@ Lorna Lake, explore Lorna lake area(e.g. to  Elbow Pass and back)

Day 2: Lorna Lake to Warner Lake (Lorna lake ----->Lorna pass trail---->Deer pass trail------>Warner pass trail----->Warner Lake) ~21km. Camp@ Warner Lake

Day 3: Warner Lake to Spruce Lake via Gun creek trail, ~15km camp@ Spruce lake

Day 4: explore Spruce Lake area (e.g. to Windy Pass via high trail and back--might do it @ day 3 after dinner if we have time) and fly out from Spruce Lake

刚刚跟紫湖比较了一下，Day 2，Day 3都要负重走十几二十公里，而且Day 2 的累计拔高有1170m，是不是太“自虐”？ 在山顶上暴晒很厉害，对体力是一个很大的考验，沿途有水源吗？

能否选两个最美的湖，一进一出，可以有更多时间欣赏风景？

lulululu

googoo
[quote]lulululu
The plan:

Day 1: fly in.(Lorna Lake) Camp@ Lorna Lake, explore Lorna lake area(e.g. to  Elbow Pass and back)

Day 2: Lorna Lake to Warner Lake (Lorna lake ----->Lorna pass trail---->Deer pass trail------>Warner pass trail----->Warner Lake) ~21km. Camp@ Warner Lake

Day 3: Warner Lake to Spruce Lake via Gun creek trail, ~15km camp@ Spruce lake

Day 4: explore Spruce Lake area (e.g. to Windy Pass via high trail and back--might do it @ day 3 after dinner if we have time) and fly out from Spruce Lake

刚刚跟紫湖比较了一下，Day 2，Day 3都要负重走十几二十公里，而且Day 2 的累计拔高有1170m，是不是太“自虐”？ 在山顶上暴晒很厉害，对体力是一个很大的考验，沿途有水源吗？

能否选两个最美的湖，一进一出，可以有更多时间欣赏风景？[/quote]

沿途有水源, day 3 is easier than day 2 and all trails are well maintained(for horse riders and bikers as well),  we can fly in to Lorna lake and fly out @ Warner lake as well, which covers smaller area but more relax(e.g. day 3: explore warner pass). Anyway, our current plan lets us see more beautiful lakes/mountains as it covers a large area.  We can decide the final plan together and I will post backup plan when I come back.

googoo

lulululu
[quote]googoo
[quote]lulululu
The plan:

Day 1: fly in.(Lorna Lake) Camp@ Lorna Lake, explore Lorna lake area(e.g. to  Elbow Pass and back)

Day 2: Lorna Lake to Warner Lake (Lorna lake ----->Lorna pass trail---->Deer pass trail------>Warner pass trail----->Warner Lake) ~21km. Camp@ Warner Lake

Day 3: Warner Lake to Spruce Lake via Gun creek trail, ~15km camp@ Spruce lake

Day 4: explore Spruce Lake area (e.g. to Windy Pass via high trail and back--might do it @ day 3 after dinner if we have time) and fly out from Spruce Lake

刚刚跟紫湖比较了一下，Day 2，Day 3都要负重走十几二十公里，而且Day 2 的累计拔高有1170m，是不是太“自虐”？ 在山顶上暴晒很厉害，对体力是一个很大的考验，沿途有水源吗？

能否选两个最美的湖，一进一出，可以有更多时间欣赏风景？[/quote]

沿途有水源, day 3 is easier than day 2 and all trails are well maintained(for horse riders and bikers as well),  we can fly in to Lorna lake and fly out @ Warner lake as well, which covers smaller area but more relax(e.g. day 3: explore warner pass). Anyway, our current plan lets us see more beautiful lakes/mountains as it covers a large area.  We can decide the final plan together and I will post backup plan when I come back.[/quote]

谢谢Lulu考虑我的建议，I'd vote for flying to Lorna and flying out from Warner. On day 3 or day 4, we could explore Trigger lake and even Hummingbird Lake as well. This will be more relax and we still can cover a large area and see most of the lakes and landscapes.

记得紫湖第二天从BASE CAMP轻装去看紫湖，来回二十二公里，类似的上上下下，双程累计拔高也有1200m了，在太阳暴晒下对体力消耗非常大。

小C

lulululu
大温地区至少有三个地方租卫星电话---Ralphs's Radio, Deakin Equipment, Canada Wide Communications
好象是Ralphs's Radio最便宜（据Noookta trip碰到的hiker--Mike Ilic说是押金一千，租金$10一天，然后是$1/per minute,有待确认），最贵应该是Deakin Equipment.

[quote]Deakin Equipment:

http://www.deakin.com/contact/
a $2000.00 dollar deposit

Daily - $24.28
Weekly - $169.99
Monthly - $350.00
Air Time Usage - $2.95 per min.

Ralphs's Radio(close to science world):
http://www.ralphsradio.com/

Canada Wide Communications in North Vancouver rent Satellite Phone as well.
http://canadawidecommunications.ca/
这家的出租价格还不清楚[/quote]

Reply from Canadawide Communications -

Canadawide Communications

Hi 小C,

Thanks for getting in touch with us for your satellite phone rental requirements.

The cost of a phone rental for the 4 days (1 week) is $99.00 plus taxes.  Additional 1 week terms are $49.00 plus taxes.  Airtime (if used) is billed out at $1.99/ minute plus taxes.

We would need a credit card number to process the payment of the rental on and that’s it.  Airtime is billed afterwards (on the credit card) once we receive in the billing details.

Let us know the sooner the better when you will need it as we are usually quite booked up with them at this time of year.

Thanks,

Scott

小C

A reply from Ralph's Radio, this is the cheapest one.

Ralph's Radio
Rate is $9.99 per day plus airtime.
Airtime rate is $1.99 per minute.
Yes, both pickup and drop off date count.
If you wish to reserve a phone, please contact Trevor Rurak at 604-999-4937 or trevor@ralphs.ca.

When do you require as we do not have a lot of availibilty at this time of year.  Will not be able to get back to you on availability until tomorrow.

DAVE RURAK, RALPH’S RADIO LTD.

ALEXYIM

googoo
刚刚跟紫湖比较了一下，Day 2，Day 3都要负重走十几二十公里，而且Day 2 的累计拔高有1170m，是不是太“自虐”？ 在山顶上暴晒很厉害，对体力是一个很大的考验，沿途有水源吗？

能否选两个最美的湖，一进一出，可以有更多时间欣赏风景？
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记得紫湖第二天从BASE CAMP轻装去看紫湖，来回二十二公里，类似的上上下下，双程累计拔高也有1200m了，在太阳暴晒下对体力消耗非常大。

回想紫湖之行我也只是看了15分鐘便要走了.   :cry:

lulululu

和Camony商量了一下，我们的计划调整如下：
跳过Spruce Lake一带，以后开车进去到这一带backpacking(easier  access)。

第一天按原计划飞到Lorna Lake扎营, explore Lorna lake area(e.g. to Elbow Pass and back)

第二天从Lorna Lake向Warner Lake进发，随机应变，如果体力不济就在Gun creek trail/Deer Pass的交界处or Trigger Lake扎营，如果体力不错的话就到Warner Lake扎营。

第三天Warner Lake扎营, 轻装走Trigger & Hummingbird Lake和explore Warner Pass一带.

第四天早上从Warner Lake飞出

小C

恕不接受佔坑, 參加者一經報名, 即須要在七月二十五日(週三)前繳付$400訂金。如因事退出而沒有合適候補人頂替, 所付款項, 恕不發還, 你仍要負責飛機費, 電話費和carpool費。付款方法會發到你的私人電郵, 請查看。

由於水上飛機最多可載五人和重量不超過1100lbs, 我們只有二個人數組合 - 5人或10人。

現報名先後次序如下:
第一組 -
1. LuLu
2. Alex
3. 小C
4. GooGoo
5. Explorer

第二組 -
6. Gentle
7. 山雨
8. Vacant
9. Vacant
10. Vacant

第二組還欠兩人才可成團, 但也請你們先付訂金, 方便安排水上飛機事宜。如出發前一週還湊不夠10人, 所付訂金會原數退回。

費用預算:

Tyax水上飛機 -
$675 (Lorna) + $633 (Warner) + HST = $1464.96 / 5
每人 $292.99

Pemberton住宿 - $30

Carpool fee
車主出車, 汽油由乘客分攤 + 15%汽車維修和清潔費, 預每人$55.00

Satellite Phone -
$9.99 x 6 + HST = $67.13 / 10,  + airtime, 預每人$10.00

合共每人花費預算$387.22