有多少中国SKS使用AK弹夹？

andrew

威廉童鞋说的中国SKS D型，我上网研究了一下，搜到一篇有用的文章，总结了市场上的国产56半的种类，贴出来，大家共同学习学习。

最近有些忙，以后有时间给大家翻译一下。

The Chinese SKS‑D is the “pre-ban” version that has a standard length barrel, a bayonet lug and attached spike bayonet, and a standard stock (with a steel filler plate in front of the magazine well). Actually, there is no official rifle as an SKS‑D. Since the SKS‑D has no specific markings on the receiver, dealers coined this term in order to differentiate these rifles from the fixed magazine ones. Some people continue to use the term “SKS‑D” to refer to any SKS that uses an AK magazine.

The Chinese SKS‑M is the “post-ban” version, typically with a shortened ‘Paratrooper’ barrel and without a bayonet lug. The SKS‑M was equipped with either a thumbhole style stock or a fancy Monte Carlo style stock. These will usually have either “SKS Sporter”, “SKS M”, “SKS NR”, or “MC 5D” stamped on the side of the receiver.

It has been reported that the following variations exist:

SKS Factory modified at factory taking several different factory markings and reducing the barrel to 16 inches, and shortening the bayonet. These are the “Navy” (imported by Navy Arms) or “Type 84” rifles they have a bolt hold open of either a pin or a button detent.

SKS‑D: 20-inch barrel, standard stock, detachable bayonet, with striper clip guide, and serialized with a 4-digit or 5-digit serial number and all components are marked as well. Note that the earlier units are reported to have the 5-digit serial numbers.


SKS‑D: 20-inch barrel, standard stock, detachable bayonet, without striper clip guide, and serial numbers starting with 88 (having 7-8 digits). Some of the components on some of the rifles are not serialized. Some “88” serial numbered rifles were caught up in customs when the 1989 ban was imposed, these were required to have the bayonet mount removed before being released to the US distributor.  Note: Of course, bayonet mounts have been removed for various reasons — So just because a particular rifle doesn't have a bayonet mount, doesn't mean the rifle is one of the ones that were “caught up in customs”.

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SKS‑M: Post ban type rifles with no striper clip guide, no bayonet and equipped with either a fancy Monte Stock or one of four or five different thumbhole stocks (with either wide or narrow forearms, black painted cuts in the pistol grip or with smooth pistol grip, rear sling mount at the bottom or on the side). These have serial numbers that start with the year imported. These were imported in both 16-inch and 20-inch versions. These rifles will usually have either “SKS Sporter”, “SKS NR”, or “SKS M” stamped on the side of the receiver. However, some just marked “SKS imported by <XYZ>”.  The 20-inch version is very scarce. All of the 20-inch models reported to date are marked “SKS M”, have fancy Monte stocks, and have serial numbers starting with “94”.

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MC 5D: These are assumed to have been imported without any “SKS markings” to get past the ban imposed on SKS Carbines with detachable magazines by the state of California. These are equipped with a fancy Monte Carlo stock and a magazine release that looks like it’s for a standard fixed magazine rifle.  Note: some folks claim this variant is stamped with “MC 50”, but those who actually own one have confirmed it is “MC 5D”.

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A number of companies provided aftermarket conversion of fixed magazine SKS Carbines to utilize AK-47 magazines. These can typically be recognized because they continue to use the standard fixed magazine SKS Carbine magazine release.

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Added category: First conversion by Midwest Ordnance. This is the one that the Chinese came over and looked at then went back and made the 84's and then the D's. It was sold in the ATI folder stock with a filler in the mag well, 20-inch barrel, and bayonet.

Note: Thanks to Jmikesteen for providing the above information.

天之饺子

弹匣版的SKS改起来不难,把原来的弹仓拆掉换上厂家件或第三方改装件上去就行.
罕见的是大容量弹仓版

Richco_outdoors

分享一下，n年前在qbq上发的一帖子。 《SKS-D和56半不同之我所见》



SKS-D从外形上看跟56半没有什么大不同，只是这个D，意思是DETACHABLE的可插拔弹夹的意思。对与国产的SKS-D在军用装备上没有任何意义。之所以改造成为插拔弹夹的步枪主要是为了民用市场销售。照片上这只SKS-D在手上玩儿了已有4年有余，累计使用了2000来发弹药，没有任何问题发生，质量上没什么降低，精度吧，打的越多相反更好些。好在国产的半自动镀铬的枪管扎实的很。



由于要把56半改造成SKS-D，枪托和弹夹导槽需要改造。

导槽由钢片加工成型，螺丝固定在枪托弹仓导槽上。主要是辅助加强枪托强度。


左侧的螺丝


右侧的螺丝



导槽内的螺丝



弹夹卡笋的运动状态，和56半的固定弹仓卡笋形状和运动基本一致。



弹夹上俩个凸台渐进卡入的状态。弹夹入装角度和56冲完全一致





机头到位，弹夹入装后的状态，当然我没装复进簧，因为没有空挂所以正常状态枪机是不能到位的。右侧机框导轨上的缺口是为了增加推弹力度而设置的。






由于要插夹子，56半上标准的空挂给取消掉了，为了能是枪机框能接受弹夹。从下往上看，机头到位时候的状态。





枪口处的加工也可以看出早期的56半和后期的商版半自动的不同。左侧的D并没有加工的很仔细，减少了加工工时，而右侧的56半枪口的倒角切削的非常漂亮，磨的也非常好。.



扳机组的加工两种枪用的都是传统的整体铣削，非晚期56半的对焊的扳机护栏。只是弹夹和弹仓的卡笋不太一样。



两种都有扳机组的定位销，不同的是D有一个加大的，弹夹凸台限位块





枪机框的对比，右侧的是SKS-D左侧是标准56半。非常容易看出来SKS-D撤除了空挂，把槽口给焊死了。56半的槽口上有空挂的限位销。





从这两张照片可以看出SKS-D比56半的枪机框略高，加工上D略好过早期的56半。机框上D没有保留传统的三角厂标和标准枪号，只是货号和出口和进口商的铭。56半则没有。但似乎D保留了国内枪厂生产时的零配件，铭识。







这两张不难看出，D和56半的枪托加工完全不一样，D略宽且木质较厚。

军版的56半扁刺背部相对比D 要厚，强度好。D的刺刀明显就是拼凑的，耍着玩儿的。

canada08

真的是有说服力，有知识有内涵有图有真相

穷熊极饿

可拆卸弹夹的是63步枪 我打的第一支枪 70年代末 地方武装部装备不少 至今还保留着一个弹夹
应该可以成为一代名枪的 可惜让呢个年代玩毁了

redduke_zy

wow这帖子牛，长知识。不过那个sks-d弹夹其实lever就有卖的，20一个35俩。

Bohr

普通的SKS不能上AK弹夹，一个原因是弹仓挂钩钩不上AK的弹夹，另外一个关键问题是SKS的枪机比AK的粗。普通SKS改AK弹夹，需要自己把枪机车窄。这个工程的切削量不小，手工板锉不太可能实现。

如果就是想用大容量弹夹，还不如用tapco专门的SKS20/30/75发弹夹/弹鼓。考虑和AK弹夹兼容我觉得没必要，除了枪机要改，那个挂钩部分也要上一个配件，这么改了之后可靠性下降。