本周末BCMC:Mar 17 & 18--- BCMC（Starts@ 7:30am）

lulululu

lulululu
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本周末BCMC: Mar 17 & 18--- BCMC（Starts@ 7:30am）

Meeting time & Place: BCMC trailhead @7:30am

我们可以提供三人的Carpool，如不开车, 请跟贴说明，Downtown天车站(Burrard SkyTrain Station)接您(~7:10am).

必备装备：小冰爪(Microspike)

Alpine Start Outfitters sell them @ 20% off (68 West Broadway,Vancouver)

http://alpinestart.com/collectio ... sound-trail-crampon

请带干净暖和的衣服爬完后更换！

PanShiBo

17和18号都报名一人，多谢！ 8)

Emily

周六报名一人 谢谢Lulu!

Emily

Hope

周六1人

请问这个周六爬山如何着装？

lulululu

Hope
周六1人

请问这个周六爬山如何着装？

快干衣裤，请背带干爽的base layer和暖和的外衣爬完后更换上！

小冰爪必备.


北美户外FAQ:
https://www.crossna.org/forum.php?mod=redirect&ptid=28091

Skyhorse

周六一人。 Burrard SkyTrain Station搭车。 多谢！ :D

lulululu

周六
自己开车去7:30am在trailhead集合的有：
Emily
Hope

7:10am在Burrard skytrain station carpool的有:
潘博士
Skyhorse

明天见

Hope

I am back home, safely.

Arrived at trail-head @7:31am, waited for more than 20 minutes... no one showed up from GG-BCMC group.

First time hike at BCMC. Confirmed with 3 group of hikers that I was waiting at the right place. Finally gave up and decided to follow a couple to finish the trail.

The view on the top is fabulous but very disappointed with my first experience with GG-BCMC group!

lulululu

Hope
I am back home, safely.

Arrived at trail-head @7:31am, waited for more than 20 minutes... no one showed up from GG-BCMC group.

First time hike at BCMC. Confirmed with 3 group of hikers that I was waiting at the right place. Finally gave up and decided to follow a couple to finish the trail.

The view on the top is fabulous but very disappointed with my first experience with GG-BCMC group!

We started on time @7:30am at the trailhead , me, my ld, 潘博士，Emily, and John. Sorry that you missed us. Please make sure you are on time or even  better a few minutes earlier if you join us next time. I just pmed my phone number to you in case you join us next time for a better communication which I should have done. My apology!

lulululu

lulululu
[quote]Hope
I am back home, safely.

Arrived at trail-head @7:31am, waited for more than 20 minutes... no one showed up from GG-BCMC group.

First time hike at BCMC. Confirmed with 3 group of hikers that I was waiting at the right place. Finally gave up and decided to follow a couple to finish the trail.

The view on the top is fabulous but very disappointed with my first experience with GG-BCMC group!

We started on time @7:30am at the trailhead , me, my ld, 潘博士，Emily, and John. Sorry that you missed us. Please make sure you are on time or even  better a few minutes earlier if you join us next time. I just pmed my phone number to you in case you join us next time for a better communication which I should have done. My apology![/quote]

Congrats on making to the top yourself,  welcome to join us tomorrow at 7:30am doing BCMC again.

Hope

OK, 1 minute late, guilty as charged!

Forgive me for taking some time to find BCMC trail-head. Although I have been to Grouse Mountain many times, this is the first time I went on this hiking trail.

If this web site is the only way for hiking group to communicate, you could at least update this site and let me know that you guys have left so I don’t need to waste my time to wait.

Thanks for the invitation. The sign for BCMC trail is actually pretty clear. I could either go by myself or go with a hiking group that don’t mind to wait for a few extra minutes…

Cheers
Hope

WanchaiBoz

Hope
OK, 1 minute late, guilty as charged!

...... I could either go by myself or go with a hiking group that don’t mind to wait for a few extra minutes…

Cheers
Hope

How do we define for a few extra minutes? 2 min, 3 min or 5 min?

being punctual 是一个好习惯 is essential to success in life .  8)

PanShiBo

WanchaiBoz
..
How do we define for a few extra minutes? 2 min, 3 min or 5 min?

being punctual 是一个好习惯 is essential to success in life .  8)

+1

Hope
OK, 1 minute late, guilty as charged!

...... I could either go by myself or go with a hiking group that don’t mind to wait for a few extra minutes…

Mind you, it is not only the organizer (a volunteer) who is supposed to wait for you, but the entire group. How long? God knows. No phone call, no text message. Next time do yourself a favor - obtain the leader's phone number and let her know that you will be late. Or better yet, arrive 10 minutes earlier. Otherwise show some class - admit that you were late and apologize, or you will look like what you did - embarrassing yourself on a public forum.

millie

为年复一年无私奉献的露露点赞👍！

Hope

WanchaiBoz: How do we define for a few extra minutes? 2 min, 3 min or 5 min?

Hope: “A few minutes” means “a few” minutes. If you truly want to define it, I would say within 5 minutes. I think it’s a reasonable time window to wait for a group activity.

WanchaiBoz: “being punctual 是一个好习惯 is essential to success in life .”

Hope: Agree, however is 1 or 5 minutes too long to wait? What if someone drove a long way to get there and was just 1 minute late due to a traffic problem? Have you ever thought about how they felt?

PanShiBo: “…Otherwise show some class - admit that you were late and apologize, or you will look like what you did - embarrassing yourself on a public forum….”

Hope: Defend your friend, thumps up! Attack others, thumps down! How classy you are! Next time think twice before you post a comment on a public site.

PanShiBo: “…No phone call, no text message. Next time do yourself a favor - obtain the leader's phone number and let her know that you will be late…”

Hope: Who do I call or text? Lulu did not leave any contact info on the page, and I don’t blame her for that…no one wants to publish their personal info on a public site. All I'm asking is that someone should have updated the site once the group left the gate.

Lulu, I respect you and the things you have done for GG-BCMC hiking group. This was actually the reason I joined Saturday's hiking…I like to meet you in person. You may be a wonderful person, but this time you and your group failed me. Period.

Hope

Speechless...

lulululu

Hope
lulu, 我敬佩你为这个登山群所做的事. 迟到1分钟是我的错, 但你们既不愿等, 也没有及时更新信息, 这是你们的错. 很震惊潘博士的回贴, 他的个人修养有待提高!

我完全同意潘博士所说，北美户外是自立自律自理的结伴同行，我们有多年不迟到的传统，可以早到不要迟到，过时不候。另外我们也要求每位队友都要各自做好做足功课准备....

北美户外的义工们（有工作和家庭）组织活动都是尽心尽力，问心无愧。

Hope

Speechless…

As a leader, it is essential to have great communication skills. Do you think you did a good job last Saturday? First you did not say 7:30am "sharp", second you did not update the site when you have left the gate. As a leader, you need to remember that another person has also signed in for this activity, it is your responsibility to let them know that you have left.

Hope

old post in 2008

You dont have to answer my questions or argue with me. But you seem not to have any difficulty of getting rid of your responsibility and liabilities conveniently at this 'difficult time'. Of course everyone has to raise these questions. All my questions directed to you were based on RCMP's report. But some of the posts here did confirm RCMP's report.

I'm here trying to help people learn.

OK, surfing on your site and found some old posts...exactly 10 years ago, someone lost his life in one of the hiking trip your group organized.

Last Saturday I too experienced similar problem ("broken communication"). Do you think you have learned from that accident?

jinsi

Hope
old post from jinsi in 2008[quote]

You dont have to answer my questions or argue with me. But you seem not to have any difficulty of getting rid of your responsibility and liabilities conveniently at this 'difficult time'. Of course everyone has to raise these questions. All my questions directed to you were based on RCMP's report. But some of the posts here did confirm RCMP's report.

I'm here trying to help people learn.

OK, surfing on your site and found some old posts...exactly 10 years ago, someone lost his life in one of the hiking trip your group organized.

Last Saturday I too experienced similar problem ("broken communication"). Do you think you have learned from that accident?[/quote]

請Hope朋友注意以上的文字是另一位意見較主觀的讀者寫在我開的帖子裏，並不是我寫的，讀者要看上文下理才可理解來龍去脈。已有多年沒有在這論壇看到這種有點不可理喻的情況了，亦不理解為何要把十年前他人的事翻出來？請恕我愚笨，這樣做除了在他人的傷口灑鹽外，好像兩件事沒有甚麼關連？