<活动召集>2008三月份Garibaldi Neve Traverse三到四日雪原冰川雪山

ALEXYIM

I'm in.  Need carpool, want to share Lulu's tent & 1/3 of the tent weight.   :lol:

Alex can shuttle us if that period doesn't conflict with his other schedule.   :wink:

Camony

lulululu

ALEXYIM
I'm in.  Need carpool, want to share Lulu's tent & 1/3 of the tent weight.   :lol:

Alex can shuttle us if that period doesn't conflict with his other schedule.   :wink:

Camony

I'm so happy! we'll share the tent :lol:

马不停蹄

如果三月初能回到vancouver可以考虑．　还没走过snowshoe呢．

lulululu

给 Brian Jones 发过两封email，至今还没得到回复

ALEXYIM

lulululu
给 Brian Jones 发过两封email，至今还没得到回复

先前他還催速您交訂金確定日期, 現在又不回复。真奇怪。 :?
可否作一大膽建議, 我們有GPS, 地圖, 如好天氣,
可否自已穿越不用嚮導 :?:

Camony

jinsi

ALEXYIM
[quote]lulululu
给 Brian Jones 发过两封email，至今还没得到回复

先前他還催速您交訂金確定日期, 現在又不回复。真奇怪。 :?
可否作一大膽建議, 我們有GPS, 地圖, 如好天氣,
可否自已穿越不用嚮導 :?:

Camony[/quote]

我還是贊成有嚮導安全一點, 始終冬天的天氣及環境變化可以很大, 也希望從專業嚮導處學習些新的技能.

lulululu

找个雪况好的好天气我们自己走也是可行的，有很多的GPS waypoint/track可供我们参考，不行的话还可以半路回退

ALEXYIM

lulululu
找个雪况好的好天气我们自己走也是可行的，有很多的GPS waypoint/track可供我们参考，不行的话还可以半路回退

贊成. 在一個安全,準備充足,和計劃週詳的情況下, 自己找路也十分好玩.
也是一個挑戰.   "参考,找資料,策劃,行動,檢討" 也就是這活動的特色.

"不行的话还可以半路回退", 也是計劃的一部份, 累積了經驗, 那怕不成功. 到時我俩总有一個會參與.

Alex & Camony

lulululu

这是CT上最新的TR:  Garibaldi Neve Feb 16-18 2008

http://clubtread.com/sforum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=25445

ALEXYIM

lulululu
这是CT上最新的TR:  Garibaldi Neve Feb 16-18 2008

http://clubtread.com/sforum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=25445

Lulu 妳可否跟進取多一些資料,了解他們的行程和經驗. 謝謝.
(他們是否用snowshoes? 照片分析,好像是.)

lulululu

ALEXYIM
[quote]lulululu
这是CT上最新的TR:  Garibaldi Neve Feb 16-18 2008

http://clubtread.com/sforum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=25445

Lulu 妳可否跟進取多一些資料,了解他們的行程和經驗. 謝謝.
(他們是否用snowshoes? 照片分析,好像是.)[/quote]

yes, they were on snowshoes

here is the email reply I got:

Hi Gloria,

Here's the waypoints we used:

Grid References are NAD27, Lat-Longs are WGS84.
Google 009-150   49°47' 24.0"-122°59' 12.0"=Elfin Shelter 1470m (4823')
Google 006-154   49°47' 35.1"-122°59' 26.7"=Ring-Mashiter pass (dip N
of Elfin) 1417m (4649')
Google 007-158   49°47' 48.0"-122°59' 24.0"=Cross First Gulley 1450m (4757')
Google 007-159   49°47' 54.0"-122°59' 24.0"=Second Gulley 1424m (4672')
Google 007-159   49°47' 54.0"-122°59' 24.0"=Third Gulley (huge gulley)
1435m (4708')
Google 008-167   49°48' 18.0"-122°59' 18.0"=Start down across
Gargoyles avalanche chutes 1440m (4724')
Google 010-172   49°48' 36.0"-122°59' 06.0"=Top of Morraine 1310m (4298')
Google 009-172   49°48' 36.0"-122°59' 12.0"=Bottom of Morraine 1285m (4216')
Google 014-182   49°49' 06.0"-122°58' 48.0"=E side of Ring Creek,
steep morraine on W side 1376m (4514')
Google 021-193   49°49' 42.0"-122°58' 12.0"=Big Level area 1618m (5308')
Google 020-202   49°50' 12.0"-122°58' 18.0"=On big flat, with view of
Pitt Valley 1713m (5620')
Google 015-208   49°50' 30.0"-122°58' 42.0"=start of climb to high
point (big snowdrift on Left 1752m (5748')
Google 015-213   49°50' 48.0"-122°58' 42.0"=40m below rock spur 1855m (6086')
Google 015-217   49°51' 00.0"-122°58' 42.0"=Remaining few timbers from
old cabin 1996m (6549')
Google 015-222   49°51' 18.0"-122°58' 42.0"=Traverse level from ridge
line 2087m (6847')
Google 015-224   49°51' 24.0"-122°58' 42.0"=2080m Rocky Ridge goes E.
(high point of the low route).
Google 009-230   49°51' 42.0"-122°59' 12.0"=Critical Corner, up
against Rock wall S of Sharks Fin 2029m (6657')
Google 010-241   49°52' 18.0"-122°59' 06.0"=Pass between Warren
Glacier and Pitt R (Camp) 1810m (5938')
Google 009-254   49°52' 60.0"-122°59' 10.8"=Pass between Glacier Pikes
and bump to W 1910m (6266')
Google 008-261   49°53' 24.0"-122°59' 18.0"=Top of Glacier Chute,
below rock Nunatuk 1794m (5886')
Google 009-263   49°53' 30.0"-122°59' 12.0"=Center of gulley, no rock
visible in poor visibility 1704m (5591')
Google 009-265   49°53' 36.0"-122°59' 12.0"=Bottom of Glacier Chute
1609m (5279')
Google 004-271   49°53' 54.0"-122°59' 36.0"=glaciology Hut 1556m (5105')
Google 959-322   49°56' 42.0"-123°03' 24.0"=Outlet of Garibaldi Lake
1472m (4829')


Note that Sentinel Hut that we used will not accomodate more than 4
people comfortably, and more than 6 - at all. Sphinx is larger, but
somewhat off the direct course.
Apart from that, there's not much to our planning.
The algorithm is following:
- put one foot ahead of the other;
- repeat this action ~50,000 times;
- you're done.

Good luck,
EK

ALEXYIM

lulululu
这是CT上最新的TR:  Garibaldi Neve Feb 16-18 2008

http://clubtread.com/sforum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=25445

This group was fast...only took 2.5 days to finish the traverse.
I don't think I can.   :roll:

Camony

WanchaiBoz

Would love to tag along if the trip is indeed during the Easter long weekend. Done the Elfin Lake a few times last winter but never none beyond that Lake.

jinsi

lulululu
找个雪况好的好天气我们自己走也是可行的，有很多的GPS waypoint/track可供我们参考，不行的话还可以半路回退

應該可行, 但是自己走的話, 今年我還覺得自己冬季露營的經驗還是太淺, 風和日麗還可以, 若天氣變壞或有意外(雪崩, 掉進crevasse--我想應該不會吧 :? ...)便不能應付了.

現在繼續看資料, 繼續跟lulu去練習, 還想上avalanche safety的課... (小聲問一句: 今年的計劃是否泡湯了??  :qb:)

lulululu

lulululu

[quote]
Hi Gloria,

Here's the waypoints we used:

Grid References are NAD27, Lat-Longs are WGS84.
Google 009-150   49°47' 24.0"-122°59' 12.0"=Elfin Shelter 1470m (4823')
Google 006-154   49°47' 35.1"-122°59' 26.7"=Ring-Mashiter pass (dip N
of Elfin) 1417m (4649')
Google 007-158   49°47' 48.0"-122°59' 24.0"=Cross First Gulley 1450m (4757')
Google 007-159   49°47' 54.0"-122°59' 24.0"=Second Gulley 1424m (4672')
Google 007-159   49°47' 54.0"-122°59' 24.0"=Third Gulley (huge gulley)
1435m (4708')
Google 008-167   49°48' 18.0"-122°59' 18.0"=Start down across
Gargoyles avalanche chutes 1440m (4724')
Google 010-172   49°48' 36.0"-122°59' 06.0"=Top of Morraine 1310m (4298')
Google 009-172   49°48' 36.0"-122°59' 12.0"=Bottom of Morraine 1285m (4216')
Google 014-182   49°49' 06.0"-122°58' 48.0"=E side of Ring Creek,
steep morraine on W side 1376m (4514')
Google 021-193   49°49' 42.0"-122°58' 12.0"=Big Level area 1618m (5308')
Google 020-202   49°50' 12.0"-122°58' 18.0"=On big flat, with view of
Pitt Valley 1713m (5620')
Google 015-208   49°50' 30.0"-122°58' 42.0"=start of climb to high
point (big snowdrift on Left 1752m (5748')
Google 015-213   49°50' 48.0"-122°58' 42.0"=40m below rock spur 1855m (6086')
Google 015-217   49°51' 00.0"-122°58' 42.0"=Remaining few timbers from
old cabin 1996m (6549')
Google 015-222   49°51' 18.0"-122°58' 42.0"=Traverse level from ridge
line 2087m (6847')
Google 015-224   49°51' 24.0"-122°58' 42.0"=2080m Rocky Ridge goes E.
(high point of the low route).
Google 009-230   49°51' 42.0"-122°59' 12.0"=Critical Corner, up
against Rock wall S of Sharks Fin 2029m (6657')
Google 010-241   49°52' 18.0"-122°59' 06.0"=Pass between Warren
Glacier and Pitt R (Camp) 1810m (5938')
Google 009-254   49°52' 60.0"-122°59' 10.8"=Pass between Glacier Pikes
and bump to W 1910m (6266')
Google 008-261   49°53' 24.0"-122°59' 18.0"=Top of Glacier Chute,
below rock Nunatuk 1794m (5886')
Google 009-263   49°53' 30.0"-122°59' 12.0"=Center of gulley, no rock
visible in poor visibility 1704m (5591')
Google 009-265   49°53' 36.0"-122°59' 12.0"=Bottom of Glacier Chute
1609m (5279')
Google 004-271   49°53' 54.0"-122°59' 36.0"=glaciology Hut 1556m (5105')
Google 959-322   49°56' 42.0"-123°03' 24.0"=Outlet of Garibaldi Lake
1472m (4829')


Note that Sentinel Hut that we used will not accomodate more than 4
people comfortably, and more than 6 - at all. Sphinx is larger, but
somewhat off the direct course.
Apart from that, there's not much to our planning.
The algorithm is following:
- put one foot ahead of the other;
- repeat this action ~50,000 times;
- you're done.

Good luck,
EK

[/quote]


I don't like this part which they did(in red),  We won't do that, descent down Columnar is faster and safter

lulululu

jinsi
[quote]lulululu
找个雪况好的好天气我们自己走也是可行的，有很多的GPS waypoint/track可供我们参考，不行的话还可以半路回退

應該可行, 但是自己走的話, 今年我還覺得自己冬季露營的經驗還是太淺, 風和日麗還可以, 若天氣變壞或有意外(雪崩, 掉進crevasse--我想應該不會吧 :? ...)便不能應付了.

現在繼續看資料, 繼續跟lulu去練習, 還想上avalanche safety的課... (小聲問一句: 今年的計劃是否泡湯了??  :qb:)[/quote]


整个Neve行有可能推迟到明年，但三月份我们自己会走一部分Garibaldi Neve，计划三天的trip，第一天到Garibaldi Lake，第二天到Glaciology hut@Sentinel Bay，then explore surrounding, 第3天回程
(这部分NEVE还是安全的)。想强度大一些，也可以试着两天完成

Gloria

lulululu


整个Neve行有可能推迟到明年，但三月份我们自己会走一部分Garibaldi Neve，计划三天的trip，第一天到Garibaldi Lake，第二天到Glaciology hut@Sentinel Bay，then explore surrounding, 第3天回程
(这部分NEVE还是安全的)。想强度大一些，也可以试着两天完成

I would be interested in doing a 2 or 3-day snow camping trip during the Easter holidays provided there is a good weather window and someone is willing to share a 4-season tent with me.

ALEXYIM

lulululu

整个Neve行有可能推迟到明年，但三月份我们自己会走一部分Garibaldi Neve，计划三天的trip，第一天到Garibaldi Lake，第二天到Glaciology hut@Sentinel Bay，then explore surrounding, 第3天回程
(这部分NEVE还是安全的)。想强度大一些，也可以试着两天完成

不想強度太大，最好輕鬆點走三天, 多些時間欣賞風景及實習雪地露營技巧。 :wink:

Camony

lulululu

ALEXYIM
[quote]lulululu

整个Neve行有可能推迟到明年，但三月份我们自己会走一部分Garibaldi Neve，计划三天的trip，第一天到Garibaldi Lake，第二天到Glaciology hut@Sentinel Bay，then explore surrounding, 第3天回程
(这部分NEVE还是安全的)。想强度大一些，也可以试着两天完成

不想強度太大，最好輕鬆點走三天, 多些時間欣賞風景及實習雪地露營技巧。 :wink:

Camony[/quote]

We'll do a 3-day trip then :lol:

My friend Bob will do the Neve Monday and Tuesday on his own. He will start at Elfin but not go all the way to Garibaldi lake. he'd turn around and ski back to Elfin and to his car there......I'll ask him for more info later...

Right now it would be pretty easy as we know there is a snowshoe track already in place (unless there was a
LOT of new snow yesterday). The timing is good right now(avy risk is low)......

jinsi

lulululu
We'll do a 3-day trip then :lol:

:aa5: